Transcript For Learning the Fix n Flip Model with Tanya Endicott
Gabriel Petersen 0:01
All right, we are live. Tanya, thank you for joining us today. How are you doing?
Tanya Endicott 0:08
I’m doing well. Okay. Thanks for having me
Gabriel Petersen 0:11
on. So let’s just get started right into the thick of it. Why don’t you self tell us you know who you are, where you’re from and how you got into real estate in the first place.
Tanya Endicott 0:21
Okay, I’m Tanya Endicott from the Dallas Texas area. I got into real estate because I was in law school, got pregnant and decided that’s not where I needed to be. So that was a little over 20 years ago and I haven’t looked back.
Gabriel Petersen 0:40
I love it. I actually kind of that was how my story started to I was in law school. I didn’t go straight into real estate but I did have that that similar starting so I’m right there with you. It’s not a not to take.
Tanya Endicott 0:52
I didn’t know that. That’s awesome. Yeah.
Gabriel Petersen 0:58
So great. You got started those a number of you years ago, you went straight into you started as a realtor. And then once you became a realtor, you started investing in properties. Kind of give us a story sense. Yeah,
Tanya Endicott 1:09
sure. So once I got started in real estate, I was a big, I’ve always been a big proponent of not having to find each deal trying to trying to make that mass deal work. So I went into foreclosures and work with the with different corporations and I listed home for 21 different banks, and kind of got thrown into without having any experience, having to rehab the properties for the banks and then pay the contractors up front and get paid on the back end. And then if the bank went under, when all of that happened, then I didn’t get paid back. And so I I kind of learned in my real estate experience, how to rehab properties, how to deal with contractors. How Go into a property and say I need to do this, this, this and this to make a buyer buy it for the price that I want them to buy it at. That’s how I got started. And it was a really natural transition into investing at that point. And so I started learning how to buy properties on the courthouse steps. Oh, wow. And that was my first two properties ever were bought on the courthouse steps, which I don’t advise unless you really know what you’re doing. Just FYI.
Gabriel Petersen 2:30
Yeah, that would be that sounds like a I’ve never done it. But it sounds like a high stress kind of situation you got to make you got to make the decision on the dime. gotta know your numbers. Gotta go in there prepared.
Tanya Endicott 2:41
Yeah, well, and that’s not even the most important part. The big thing is you have to know that that property doesn’t carry $100,000 tax lien on the back that you just bought with your money.
Gabriel Petersen 2:53
Oh, interesting. I didn’t know that. You’re not able to take every title and
Tanya Endicott 2:57
no, not at all You picked cash on the spot you have to bring cash with you to the auction and any liens that don’t get wiped out by the first lien hoarder, you are now an owner. So that’s why I say you you need to know what you’re doing. You don’t bid on property that you haven’t done the research on and you could do research on 50 properties looking up title stuff in the county records and and one of them may come up for sale. Gotcha. I don’t know. But I mean, I I bought I bought a property for 15 grand. And I later Later I rented it out for years and years and then later sold it for 199. So bad now is literally a shell of a property and I dumped a lot of money into it first. But anyway,
Gabriel Petersen 3:52
still, that’s I’m sure you still had a pretty good ROI on that property. Yeah. That’s great. So why don’t we To kind of stick into that, I was going to ask you, I want to ask you a little bit about your business what you’re doing. It sounds like, I mean, you got two sides, you’re a broker. So you have the brokerage side, you deal with investors on that side, helping them find good flips, helping them find good rentals, and then you’re also have your investing side of the business. So kind of tell us, you know, what are you doing today? You know, in present day, what’s your bread and butter? What’s bringing the bringing the dollars in the door?
Tanya Endicott 4:26
Right? So I mean, we do we have a traditional side, um, and, you know, I because I’ve been doing it for so long. It’s, it just kind of flows. You know, I’ve got a team of agents and great staff, and we’re able to just make that magic happen on that end. And then on the flip side, I do that with my husband, and we make a really good team, because he knows how to make everything fit into place. And if I say, Oh, I really want this, then he knows how to make that magic happen. So I mean, I remember one property we walked into, and it was literally with a black marker. And we went in and and on the walls, we drew x’s, we were getting rid of this wall and I want a door here and, and then he just went in and made the magic happen. And now he’s not just the grunt work. I mean, he also has brilliant ideas as well. But you know that that’s how we work. I run the numbers. I’m the numbers cruncher and, and then he goes in and he says, it’ll take this number of dollars to make what you want happen. And a lot of times we’ll pick out supplies together, but we try to stick to the same paint colors. And I mean, we don’t, it’s not like the TV shows. I mean, everybody watches those TV shows and they’re like, Oh, let’s, let’s create a whole new project every single house that we get and if you do that, you end up getting yourself in trouble.
Gabriel Petersen 6:10
That’s absolutely true. And and I mean, I can attest to the to the fact of having a solid partner and having a partnership that you kind of help each other. I mean, you fill in the gaps or the other one kind of you’re working with your strengths is incredibly important. So it sounds like that with that’s what you and your husband have and so it’s it’s awesome that that’s working out so well.
Tanya Endicott 6:31
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Gabriel Petersen 6:34
So on the on the the investing side, what is it that you guys focus on? You’re doing flips and sounds like you also buy rentals? What kind of what what is that side?
Tanya Endicott 6:46
Yeah, so um, I used to have multiple rentals and then went through a divorce and, and no longer have those rentals but we kind of set out our map as you will allow What we want to accomplish and and definitely the buy and hold strategy is on there. I’ve been in that space before I like that space because of the residual income that just happens each month. And, and and in Texas, you know, with so many corporations here and that kind of stuff. It’s a great place to have buy and hold property. So my thing is, I learned, I mean, I almost went under and my business career in real estate in 2009 ish 2009 2010 because I had all my eggs in one basket, and I wasn’t doing flips. I wasn’t really doing anything. I literally was only listing foreclosures for the banks, and then all the banks went under, and there were no more foreclosures. And it was a struggle and there are a lot of people in Dallas who went out of business during that time because They weren’t able to readjust what they were doing fast enough. And luckily, I was able to do that. Um, and I decided I would never do that in any business again have all my eggs in one basket. So for me a diverse portfolio is super, super important.
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Gabriel Petersen 8:20
yeah, that is absolutely true. So how do you go by about diversifying your portfolio now since I mean you used to be 100% in foreclosures, now you’ve got you got your brokerage you got your flips, and then you’re also buying rentals is that
Tanya Endicott 8:36
yes, yes. So we’re also on track to do some buying homes this year. Yeah. And then eventually, I want to do some buying holds on multifamily property like 100 doors, okay, apartment complexes, but I haven’t. I haven’t reached there yet. So
Gabriel Petersen 8:54
yeah, that’s great. Now that’s a that is something that a lot of investors are interested in so multifamily Laser it’s a it’s a really big, big undertaking but it’s it’s a lot of fun. Just a single family, right?
Tanya Endicott 9:06
You know you do you have to start somewhere you can’t you can’t eat the whole elephant all at one time it’s bite by bite, right? Or the cow or whatever the analogy is, anyway, it’s about one step forward, instead of trying to figure out how to do everything all at once.
Gabriel Petersen 9:24
Yep. Yep, yep, yep. So I understand you are, you know, in your partnership, you are kind of the one that deals with the numbers. You’re really analytical you and you understand how to identify a good flip a good rental when you see one. So how, what is it that kind of gives it away? Kind of what’s your process? Take us through how you identify a deal versus a dud.
Tanya Endicott 9:49
Okay. So the very first thing that I do because I have to tell you, I probably get 50 emails a day from wholesalers or People who have investment properties and it’s like, oh, I have this great deal doesn’t mean a lot of work. And you know, you can buy it at at 135,000, and the ARV on this property is 150.
that doesn’t make a lot of sense. And honestly, I mean, I don’t trust anything that any of the wholesalers send me because they’re in it, because they want to sell the property to you. So if you don’t have a way to run your own numbers, whether that’s partnering with a real estate agent, who you’re gonna end up selling with on the back end, or who will help you, you know, on a deal by deal basis, like you pay them a little bit and they’ll send you as many comps as they want, or if you don’t have some kind of software that you feel super solid about your numbers on. That’s like the very first place to start because I don’t care if somebody says They have the sweetest deal in the world. If their numbers are off and you plan on their numbers, then it’s ultimately going to fall on your shoulders when you have to sell and you’re underwater in that property. They don’t care. They’re gone. So when I’m running numbers, the very first thing I do is what are they? What are they selling it for right now? And then what do I realistically see the ARV being and I always, I don’t try to reach for that because obviously the wholesalers are saying let’s reach for that high number. You don’t you don’t want to try to reach me if there’s any kind of shift in the market. It’s not it’s not usually going to happen overnight. But you also going to you also aren’t gonna get that property done overnight either. So you’re gonna forecast a little bit and say, okay, what’s happened in the last six months here? Um, you know, how many properties are selling was there just an incredible month or is everything in the neighborhood selling low, but the radius search around that property, maybe selling for better numbers. So something that’s going on in that neighborhood, what is it? So it’s just really, really digging down into what your end price numbers going to be. And then you go inside and you look because if the invoice number doesn’t make sense for what they’re selling it with, it really doesn’t matter if you know what their what the inside price is going to be, because you have to know what your closing costs are. So you you already know what your your set costs are to start with, right? Before you have to go in and rehab a property you have set costs when you close in the beginning and you have set costs when you close at the end, right? So you already know those. And then, you know, you figure out what your true ARV is and then you decide if it makes sense to actually dive into the property and look at what rehab needs to be done on it.
Gabriel Petersen 12:57
I like that. I think that one line is probably the I mean that that kind of sums it up, don’t reach. I know I used to do, I started doing flips. And that’s kind of how I got started in this. And I definitely had properties where I was reaching. And that is that is a lesson that I mean, you don’t want to learn, but you’ll learn it if you’re if it’s what you’re doing. So, yeah, don’t reach. That’s really good. I like that.
Tanya Endicott 13:22
Good. Good. That I said something useful today. Yeah.
Gabriel Petersen 13:29
Okay, so. So you’re doing fix and flips, you’re looking to do buy and holds in order to find I mean, we all know that there’s a process to, to real estate, you can’t my properties don’t just come to you. You have to you have to find the deal. You have to analyze it, you have to finance it, and then you have to fix it and flip it and stabilize it. So take us to the very start of that funnel for you. How do you go about finding properties? What’s the I mean, you’re a realtor so you get to see stuff on the market. But do you do any off market marketing? Or how does that look for you?
Tanya Endicott 14:05
So I’m, I’m going to tell you what has happened for us. But that’s not going to be the situation for everybody. I am I’m not going to be your best guru on this because I haven’t figured out that magic strategy yet where someone else could duplicate it. And, and I’m always you know, I’m always a level with you kind of person. You know, I don’t try to sell you the stars and the moons but but the thing that I will tell you is I told you about a couple of courthouse properties. In my real estate dealings, just normal real estate dealings, I come across properties where people just want out Yeah, they just want out and that’s just all there is to it and was so funny. I think was a couple years ago, maybe I was out listing appointment with somebody and he’s like, I just, I just don’t want to deal with people coming in my house. I don’t want to do repairs, I don’t want to anything. And I was like, well, I could buy it from you. My husband when I came home and he’s like, Are you crazy? When are we gonna get the money to buy those out? And I said, I don’t know, but we’re gonna do it. And, and we did. And, you know, I mean, I interviewed a bunch of hard money lenders and paid way too much on the hard money lender I chose and I mean, so setting all of that up even before you find the property is a really good choice as opposed to find your property and then scrambling to figure it out at that time. I’m just one of my aha. But anyway, it just kind of kind of snowballed from there. I mean, he saw what what you could do relatively easily. With the property and I think we made 40 on that one, you know, somewhere similar in that in that range. And, um, and I think we were, we were in it for maybe three months, you know, from the beginning to the end. So it was just one of those nice cherry deals that everybody hopes for. Right?
Gabriel Petersen 16:22
I like it. So is that that’s where you get the majority of your deals. Today is is on on market through the MLS or your equivalent of the MLS?
Tanya Endicott 16:32
Well, these would be prior to the MLS. I will say I don’t, I don’t think we’ve ever bought anything out of the MLS, okay. And now I’ve sold things out of the MLS to other investors. And so I’m not saying that’s not a good place to go. But I think your competition is a little more fierce there because everybody has programs that’s from the MLS And then you end up in these multiple offer situations and any good agent isn’t going to just take the first offer that comes in because they’re trying to get their seller the most money and it is what it is. And, you know, which is the way that it’s supposed to be for a real estate agent, right? You You’re supposed to represent your client. So um, but yeah, so I would say our go to is definitely not the MLS, um, we’ve stumbled upon properties that have just been sellers or people who knew we buy and, and said, Hey, you know, my mom’s got a house or this or that and we’ve ended up purchasing it. And, and then we have bought a couple from wholesalers. But they had to have I mean, they were pretty wrecked to be real honest with you. And I’m not sure that that’s our, that’s our go to, for most of them. I mean, you know, it’s always nice to go in and out as opposed to be holding on to Have the property for a while, because it definitely eats into what you end up putting in your pocket later. But I mean, we’ve literally bought houses that were down to the studs.
Unknown Speaker 18:12
And those are probably
Tanya Endicott 18:14
under the sun needed done.
Gabriel Petersen 18:16
Yeah. So those are the hard ones for sure. That’s kind of what got me out of flipping was having a deal like that and just having everything go sideways and finally being like, you know what, this is not the model for me.
Tanya Endicott 18:29
Yeah, I mean, I heard someone I can’t remember what you know, there’s all kinds of different gurus out there preaching lots of different things, right. And somebody had called it, um, hole tailing or something like that, where basically you’re buying a property that needs very, very little is is what the whole concept is. And that’s a good concept. You just again, your numbers are slim. And so you have to just be really, really smart. Add on your numbers. And I’ve seen so many investors just on the real estate side before I ever started flipping, get really caught up in the emotional aspect of it and say, Well, I don’t want these cabinets. I want custom cabinets. And I want this floor because it looks better than this floor even though this floor is less expensive. And I want this and I want that. And they make it this like labor of love. I’m not saying you don’t pour some love in those houses. But again, it’s not like a TV show. Because every penny you spend on that house is a penny. You’re not getting out of it. Yeah. You know, so
I mean, we ask ourselves three questions. And it’s Is it necessary for the sale? You know, is it is it a hazard like it just as a health issue that has to be taken care of and the world Will a buyer, you know, will, will increase our, our outcome when a buyer buys. Because there are things that will, there’s definite improvements you can make to a property that will increase what you can sell for like granite or or a court or something. But you’re not going to get more for courts than you do for granite. Right. So there’s the neighborhood has to have courts. It depends on the first point here in, you know what I mean? But some people are like, well, let’s take this $200,000 home and put courts in it and do this and you’re like, Why? Why would you spend that extra $6 a square foot for courts? Like why would you do it?
Gabriel Petersen 20:43
Yeah, and Same goes for for flooring. Um, you don’t have to put a fixed dollar per square foot, you know, hard hard down. Yeah, but a laminate. Yeah, it looks just as good. Good.
Tanya Endicott 20:54
Yeah. Yeah, I think the more you can kind of stick to a package. And which is the mentality of the builders who build, you know, rows of houses and they go in and they’re like package a, package B, package C, package a, package B, package C, you know, you have to stick to what you know is going to sell. Don’t try to. It’s fun to do something creative. But pick one thing, pick one thing that you can do that will make the house pop a little bit like we put a pot filler in a house. That was it was sticks. Okay. I think that was actually my husband’s idea. Hey, should we put a pot filler in here? right by the sink? It literally cost us like $200 to do but it just kind of that wow factor, you know? So you gotta you gotta pick your pops.
Unknown Speaker 21:49
Pick your tops.
Gabriel Petersen 21:52
That’s absolutely true for flipping you can I like that you said kind of follow up builders Do they have their their defined templates that they use when they go in and build because they’re doing in volume. Unless you’re unless you’re flipping your own house, you know, you don’t try to use all of your creativity, just do something that can be replicated over and over again. That’s when you really get to volume. That’s when you really get to. Yeah, yeah, to the volume. So
Tanya Endicott 22:18
it doesn’t confuse the contractors that you’re working with either like they don’t they don’t have to try to figure it out. They just No,
Gabriel Petersen 22:26
that’s a good point. Actually, I didn’t even think about that one. On that point. Working with contractors is the hardest part, in my opinion, when it comes to flipping houses. So what’s your strategy there? How do you go about selecting a good contractor? I know once you get a good one, you kind of just hold on to them with your you know, for dear life, but how do you go about finding those good contractors?
Tanya Endicott 22:50
Well, so we join groups, and that’s 100% foolproof, I’m just gonna say so and do your due diligence on the contractors and I’ll tell you I mean, it’s not that we’ve never been burned. I don’t think you can flip for any given time and not be burned by a contract or at least complet times. If you haven’t Well, I don’t know your secret, but but I will tell you so I know Spanish. Alright, so I speak Spanish and so when they talk, I can understand them. And so I definitely advise speaking Spanish that’s a good thing. Even if it’s not just about contractors, it’s good. It’s good to know what they’re saying, you know, when you’re in the room.
Gabriel Petersen 23:37
Yeah, I like that. I like that speak the language of the contract
Tanya Endicott 23:40
the language and then um, and my husband and I, we kind of trade off the good guy bad guy routine, too. And it works. Okay, so if he’s got a contractor that’s not you know, that’s pissed off with him. Then I’ll call and do the good guy routine with them. Oh, you know what’s going on? On, and vice versa, if I’ve got somebody that I can’t get to snap to them, he’ll call him be the bad guy. So I mean, we’d definitely play that.
Gabriel Petersen 24:11
I like that works.
Tanya Endicott 24:14
So but you know, I mean, it’s, it’s really about it’s about networking with other investors in the area, hey, who did you use for this concrete work? Who did who did your electric? And there’s a lot of really good contractors out there. And there’s a lot of great networking groups. So get involved in some of the networking groups that are in your area, and you guys will end up sharing contractors
Gabriel Petersen 24:40
like it. Good advice. I’m going to switch gears just a little bit here. We’re going to step away from talking about your individual business. And I kind of want to go into your stories, your experiences. We all know real estate is it’s a roller coaster, you got your ups and you got your downs, both financially and emotionally. Yeah, kind of take us to one You’re one of your low points and tell us you know, what was that experience? And what was mainly what was the lesson that you learned from that?
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Tanya Endicott 25:12
when you first get started flipping, it’s, it’s really hard to juggle more than one property at one time because you end up with all of your money in one property. And at least the way I do it, because I hate paying people to use my money. I hate it. Okay. It’s like, yeah, so I hate the hard lenders where you have to escrow your money, and then you have to pay them to come out and take a look at your property and approve what you’ve done and get your money out from them. I hate that. So I use hard money lenders who don’t do that. But I fund my rehabs. So we ended up with a lot of money in a given property at any time. And I mean, as far we’ve been really lucky, I think maybe not lucky. I’m not gonna say it’s luck because it’s it’s a lot of hard work and a lot of
a lot of
homework on a property before we buy it. And so I’m not one that I’ll see it come across my email and be like, let me write you a check. I’m gonna run my numbers it’s not gonna take me long but I’m gonna do it your you know, it’s just how I work. Nobody’s gonna strong army into buying a property with that. If it’s going to be pulled away. Someone else is going to get it. Okay. Then I guess it wasn’t meant to be. You know, but so anyway, the The only thing that I can think of is when it always sucks when you don’t have enough money to buy a property. That you see that you know is going to be a great deal because you’ve got all your money tied up in something else and I remember there was one property we were literally waiting for one to close so that we would be able to buy another one or finish work on another one. I can’t remember which which was the scenario but we were I was literally like, Okay, if that doesn’t close, we’ll pay this.
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Gabriel Petersen 27:27
It worked out well, man.
Tanya Endicott 27:29
It did it worked out. That is good.
Gabriel Petersen 27:33
All right, so I guess so now take us to the top. You know, you’re still doing it and you’ve done it for quite a while. So tell us what you know. Why are you still in it? What gets you out of bed in the morning?
Tanya Endicott 27:43
Well, I’m gonna be super honest with you. I mean, like my Why isn’t necessarily connected to my bottom dollar. I mean, I have an ulterior motive. Okay. And it’s the start an organization and I think everybody has to have a y you know, you have to have a Why are you not going to be able to get up and be successful and do this every day? And my Why is I want to be able to have enough money where I can apply a property. So it’s first I set up the organization which is going to be called Preston’s house by the way, I already own the domain and it’s for it’s for battered women with children. Okay. And we’ll we’ll be able to buy a property and not need the money from that property. And so what we’ll do is the the women who age out of like a hotel door or you know, any of the advocacy programs that they have for women, which are set up as emergency relief, and these women with children can come and stay in this apartment building that we have or or this house, and they won’t have to worry about any bills for a month. Like all they’re going to do is focus on getting a job
and taking care of them and their children.
Okay? And so for month, you know, they’ve got no house payment, no electricity payment, no grocery payments, no nothing, they’re just focused on getting a job, okay. And then the next month, they might have to pay their gas and, and some groceries or, or gas and electricity, you know, just slowly over a six month process, weave them into they are now fully self sufficient and able to take care of their children. And so that’s, that’s my Why is to start this
Gabriel Petersen 29:32
organization. That is a great why I would love to support it once it’s once it’s a reality.
Tanya Endicott 29:37
Thank you, I’ll let you know.
Gabriel Petersen 29:40
Alright, so now we’re gonna we’re gonna switch gears one more time. There’s a there’s always, you know, patterns to people’s success. And it starts from you know, the moment that you that you first got into business. And so now that those patterns are in your life, and you’re kind of running You know, the habits of success? If you could go back to the Tanya, that who just started however many years ago, and give, give that version of yourself one piece of advice going forward in real estate investing, what would that piece of advice be?
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Unknown Speaker 30:19
All right, okay.
Tanya Endicott 30:22
Start sooner and, and, and do more of it. I mean, I I will tell you, I love the investment side of it. I really do. Um, and it may be it may be because, you know, you get to take this this project and, and you pour a little bit into it heart and soul money, all of these things. And then you get to say, Okay, bye. And then you get to do another one, and it’s all exciting and new again. And I like that. I like that aspect of it. I guess in all seriousness, I would probably, I would probably have gotten a mentor sooner, instead of trying to figure it out by myself, to be honest with you. Yeah. So if that if that’s the one thing that I could go back and tell myself would have been, Hey, get a mentor, so you don’t have to try to reinvent the wheel. Because you don’t need to. You don’t need to do
Gabriel Petersen 31:27
awesome and and so if you, if you already I mean, somebody listening who’s just starting out, if they, you know, if they don’t have a mentor or what what would you suggest? How do you suggest getting, you know, going and finding themselves mentor?
Tanya Endicott 31:40
So, and you know what, there’s a lot of them out there, okay. I’m there and I’m not going to tout any one company or person or individual, and everybody wants money.
So do research.
Get up again get on some of the, you know, like bigger pockets and some of the investor groups and ask people’s experience. Hey, how was your experience with so and so? Hey, was this program worth buying? Because I remember I’m like I don’t I don’t even know how long ago this was but it was like on on TV they were selling this one size fits all you can make a million dollars without spending $1 on those programs, okay? I even remember the person who put that on and I’m not gonna say the name Oh man. But anyway, there is there is not usually a one size fits all for the entire United States because every state has different laws. You know, like Texas were non disclosure state. Okay, that’s not necessarily true in life. Minnesota or Tennessee, so someone who’s selling a program in Tennessee may not really have the best programs for Texas. And because they don’t know our laws, and they don’t know, the market, to be quite honest with you. So I would say, find somebody that maybe not necessarily your area, but at least knows the laws for your area. And then do research. Read about them. Don’t go spend $10,000 $20,000 for some of these gurus, ask for that much money and more. But partnering and getting a mentor is is huge if you want to have that kickstart otherwise you can you can do it yourself. You don’t have to have that it’s just if you want to do it quicker, faster, better. Does that help?
Gabriel Petersen 33:52
Yeah, yeah, that’s, that is a good good advice. And I also like that you suggested local mentors, because In my opinion, I mean you know everybody’s different different things work for different people but being able to sit down and actually meet up with a mentor in person for me has been been very important. So um, so I like like that piece of advice. So we do we try to keep these episodes between 30 and 40 minutes so we are kind of, we’re hitting the the tail end of our show here. But before we sign off, you know, we all need things including yourself, so somebody could bring you something What is it that you that you’d like to for them to bring you
Tanya Endicott 34:31
bring me your deals.
If you think that you have a fat deal, I’d love to look at it.
Gabriel Petersen 34:37
So perfect. And And on that note, if somebody did want to get in contact with you, what would be the best way for them to go about doing that?
Tanya Endicott 34:46
Well, I you could email me at Tonya ta ny a at Dallas home team.com and or give me a call or text for 694502566
Gabriel Petersen 35:01
Well, Tanya, I’m sure I can speak for everybody listening and watching. We really appreciate having you on and you know, you sharing all of the wisdom that you’ve had so far. So I appreciate you jumping on here. And if and if anybody wants to get in contact Tanya, she just shared her, you know, contact information. I will also put the her LinkedIn in the show notes to the episode so you can grab it there. And other than that, we look forward to seeing you guys on the next episode.
Unknown Speaker 35:32
All right, thanks, Gabe.
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